Honestly, what did we think would happen when we allowed men to claim to be women?
We can not give them an inch.
Honestly, what did we think would happen when we allowed men to claim to be women? We can not give them an inch.
-Laurie Lyon
This is for all the women and Radical Feminists who want to be fair to their trans friends and make compromises for the Trans Identified.
From the beginning when the first man claimed he was a woman and demanded the medical establishment surgically alter his body to simulate the look of female genitalia was the end of women’s rights.
Transsexualism/Transgenderism:
If Trans women are women or even if they adhere to trans women are trans women acknowledging they are biologically male therefore, different from women. It is only right for them to participate in everything women are and do. All the so called Trans allies to women fighting to keep biological sex a material reality and to keep the facts of human biology established in science like Debbie Hayton are using women’s facilities and yet Debbie Hayton acknowledges he’s a man. Then WTF is he doing using women’s facilities??
We can not pick and choose when and where men who claim to be women can be involved in womanhood. If they are in fact, women or trans women. We can not use scientific facts for biological sex in sport and medicine to the exclusion of men who claim to be women if they are in fact, women or even trans women. Because Trans women are just a different kind of a woman, still a woman though.
We can not say they are not women, they are trans women. There is a difference and men who claim to be women should be excluded from certain facilities and activities because they are trans women.
We can not make the argument that they must be excluded from women’s organizational and political seats. We can not exclude them from women only facilities such as bathrooms, changing rooms & locker rooms. We can not make a fuss when they win awards that were designed to acknowledge women’s accomplishments such as, being an author and winning a book award. We can not exclude them from being awarded grants and scholarships to further research or education designed for women only. We can not exclude them from women’s sports. We can not demand they be excluded from institutions such as colleges and universities that were originally designed for women only. We can not exclude Trans women from participating in support groups for women even if it is a support group for something the male body does not possess such as cervical cancer. We can not exclude men who claim to be women from women’s shelters such as women only homeless shelters or women fleeing Domestic Violence or seeking refuge from being raped or from a stalker. It is all men by the way, who commit these crimes against women. We can not exclude Trans women from sex, even lesbian sex because they are women even if their claims are of being trans women.
Trans Identified Males are either women or they are Not. If they are then they have the right to invade women only everything; they can make a claim to all of womanhood. Which is exactly what they are doing. If they are Not women, if they are in fact biologically male, men with a mental illness of fetishization of the female body then and only then do we, as women have a leg to stand on in this fight.
Therefore, we must all denounce the entire idea of transsexualism/transgenderism Not just the ideas put forth from Queer Theory. It is not Queer Theory alone that has put women in this predicament where men are gaining legal rights to everything womanhood. Queer theory has certainly helped in this men’s rights cause but men were already trying to force their way in decades before queer theory was developed. As a matter of fact there would be no Queer Theory if it wasn’t for the male fetishization of women.
Trans What. The. Fuck. Evers. (Vestite, Sexual, Gender or cross dressing) are all variations of the same thing, the male fetishization of the female body. Female impersonators, males performing as a female and Drag Queen performance is a part of this as well. Drag Queen performance started in the 1960s as an entertainment by gay men, for gay men, in gay men’s bars and night clubs and it was always a hyper sexualized parody of gendered femininity which is forced upon women as the female sex. Drag Queen performance is a mockery of women and they are making a parody of womanhood and women’s experiences and position in patriarchal society.
As soon as the first man achieved this goal of simulation of the female body they were coming into female only facilities. Back in the 1920s-30s when these surgeries first began women’s facilities had only existed in society over the preceding 20 years or so before these male fetishists began coming into our women only facilities. The male doctors conducting these early 20th century surgeries and the men receiving these surgeries all agreed, you are a woman now and those men moved in. Never once over the past century from the beginning to our current situation did they ever consult women on the matter.
As soon as the people who were involved in early transitioning of males to simulate females and the position women are now in trying to salvage what we can of womanhood is an inevitable result of indulging men and their fantasies of being women.
Men who claim to be women have continued throughout the last century to assert themselves in women only spaces and in the mid century; 1950s through the 1970s were continuing to assert themselves in women only facilities. As the rise of women’s conscientiousness raising groups came to the fore in the beginning of the women’s liberation movement Radical Feminist women and Lesbians began to take note of this and write about it. Thus documenting men trying to invade women’s space.
These men tried to join women’s groups including our conscientiousness raising groups. Any and all spaces women were trying to create for ourselves were met with Trans Identified Men trying to assert themselves in them as though they were women.
This resulted in some feminists developing an analysis about Transsexuals, most notably was Janice Raymond’s The Transsexual Empire: The Making of The She/Male published in 1979. However, her first writing on this subject that became her published book was in the early 1970s as a college paper.
Men have never allowed women to have our own spaces to the exclusion of all males as men have done excluding women from their spaces throughout history. Men have always, even still to this day, meet to the exclusion of women.
Men have had and still to some degree have male only clubs where they meet to discuss whatever male centered things that are on their minds with other men. Men have established male only secret societies to do the same and conduct rituals of male dominance and loyalty to other men. There are still male only fraternities at Universities and Colleges throughout the US and western nations; supposedly the beacon of enlightenment and progressive societies including the women's suffragettes and the women's movement over the last 200 years.
Yes, there are sororities for women but they came about only in the last 150 years or so with Colleges and Universities that were established for women only, since women were not allowed or welcome in universities. These women sororities then spread to other Universities.
For thousands of years Universities were for men and men only.
Men in general have met without the presence of women when running governments and economies for most of human history.
In the US the Trump administration had a committee to discuss women's health and there wasn't a single woman in the room of about 20 men. So, men can meet to discuss women’s issues but women can not meet to the exclusion of men for any reason?? This still happens where men feel so entitled to meet together without the presence of women even when discussing matters of concern that only affect women.
Men are predators. They have always been angry and used forceful violent methods to prevent women who try to establish a place of our own and they will do everything they can to dismantle whatever women try to establish for ourselves.
The Trans Identified as of late are admitting to coming into women only facilities all along, and claiming we just didn’t notice.
Oh, for the most part women have noticed and any woman facing this more than likely wouldn’t want to get into a debate with a man dressed as a woman in a confined space women’s facility. More than likely she exits the facility without saying a word and she most likely wouldn’t report it as women for the most part do not report violations against us. When women do report any instance of a violation this is used against us dragging our name through the mud and making it seem as though we women ask for it. If a woman was to say anything she would report it after she leaves the facility.
Most women have been abused, at least once, by a man in her lifetime. Men are more likely to resort to violence especially when being confronted about their unacceptable behavior and we woman have an instinctive understanding that dealing with a man wearing woman face who feels so embolden to come into our facilities that he is probably unstable minded and we do not want to have to take that on in an instant especially not knowing who the man is.
I’m sure over the last century if a woman read these fetishists as men in their facilities and she was brave enough she forced him out of the bathrooms. If the police were involved they were happy to accommodate women due to prejudice and rightly so that prejudice existed and still should exist. We should be using ridicule as often as possible.
This has all changed; it is now women who will face law enforcement for hateful bigotry for confronting or reporting any man in a woman’s facility. Laws and policy changes are being passed at a rapid pace and most women in society have no idea what is happening to our rights to single sex segregated facilities or that men are taking positions in political and organizational seats designed to represent women. Thus displacing women out of those positions. We are being erased and driven back into history where women and our sex based interests are not represented.
So, women’s interests are beginning to be represented by men who claim to be us. What does this mean for women and girls? Girls will now have to accept males in their bathrooms and locker rooms/showers hhmmmm? at school and males on their sport teams as well as any girl groups that were once girls only. Trips taken by girl groups such as Girl Scouts will no longer be female only and the boys in these groups will share accommodations with the girls in overnight stays.
Women may be able to control our own reproduction or maybe not. Women’s reproductive organs are being discussed by Doctors as a commodity for transplants for men who claim to be us. And due to the fact that a healthy fertile female is only fertile for a number of years it is young women and their reproductive organs that will be most sought after. When women enter their 30s their reproduction capacity diminishes exponentially so much so doctors refer to it a geriatric pregnancy. As with surrogacy poor women will be most susceptible to the whims of men vying for our reproductive organs for transplants.
If you think that the medical world would never; then think again, because there are already doctors experimenting with this idea and advocating for the transplant of women’s reproductive organs into Trans Identified Men. Trans Identified Men have been inquiring about these transplants for some time now because they express a desire to “feel” and experience being truly a whole woman. < first clue, they are NOT women. In case you haven’t figured this out by now.
And as frightening as this is, apparently, this is also a disposable transplant. A women’s reproductive organ transplant into men can only be used once and then it is removed and discarded. All of this for men’s feelz.
The implications of men claiming to be women goes on and on and is a nightmare for women any way you look at it, if you in fact, dare to take the time to critically think about it.
Men claiming to be women have assaulted women when confronted by women when they have been in our female only spaces. When men claiming to be women have been transferred to women’s prisons these Trans Identified Men have assaulted and raped women in women’s prisons. Men claiming to be women are targeting lesbians and raping them because lesbians are same sex attracted, not same gender attracted ie corrective rape. Boys claiming to be girls or non binary wearing girls clothes have assaulted and raped girls in school bathrooms and dragged girls into vacant classrooms to sexually assault them. All of this was said to never have happened and will never happen to the point that those who support Twanny Gender’s rights won’t listen to women trying to speak up about these atrocities on girls and women. In our own, female only FUCKING FACILITIES, FFS!!!
Any time women try to shine a light on what is really going on we are bullied and told to STFU about it. We are called bigots and TERFs (Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists). In fact, Radical Feminists are blamed for every misfortune and murder and suicide TIMs (Trans Identified Males/Men) have fallen to. When in fact it is men who have murdered every Trans person.
Men, who I am sure, do not know what Radical Feminism is. Men who have never read feminism at all and may have some vague notion that women want equal rights. Not one of these murders are a hate crime either. Not one man who has murdered a Trans Identified has said it was because they were trans. No witness has ever come forward to say it was a hate crime.
There has never been a woman who has murdered a Trans Person much less a feminist even less than that, a Radical Feminist. Trans identified shout out that Radical Feminists are to blame for every murder and suicide when no such evidence exists TIMs (Trans Identified Male) and TIFs (Trans Identified Female) are always making it seem like there are hoards of Radical Feminists across the land murdering at will every trans person we come across. When in truth the violence is coming at us, not from us.
Males of all ages have much higher rates of violence than females do including, sexual violence. Men commit over 90% of all societal violence. FBI profiles of Serial Rapists and Serial Killers have documented that over 30% of all serial rapists and killers cross dress for sexual pleasure. The rate of violence in men does not decrease because TIMs (Trans Identified Males/Men) are taking cross/wrong sex hormones. Men taking female hormones does nothing to change the fact they have the same capacity and rate of violence as all men BECAUSE THEY ARE MEN! Men and TIMs will always be more violent than women. So sure, guys c’mon in. It’s a free for all on women, yeah!!!
On the flip side women who take male hormones thus far have not shown signs of increased aggression TIFs (Trans Identified Females) never show an increase towards violence. Women do not become more violent on testosterone.
Women are seeing this now with Trans Identified Men throwing vitriol across all social media to any women who does not adhere to everything men claim about being a woman and what the meaning of woman is. Women are being reduced to a subcategory of our own sex; as in, Cis Woman. Also, names that reduce women to our reproductive organs. Uterus havers, front hole meaning our vaginas, because apparently women don’t have vaginas anymore men who have undergone SRS to invert their penises have vaginas now and most TIMS don’t have bottom surgery keeping their intact male genitalia, a man’s penis becomes a Lady Dick. (Men get to make ALL the rules) menstruaters is another etc. We are now chest feeders because we wouldn’t want to hurt men’s feelings and girls and women who have undergone double mastectomies to transition. Can’t leave anyone out, except, of course, women.
How about we throw this back to TIMs and men. How about Prostate Asshole, Dick and Balls ejaculator willie wanker havers. If you can dish it out you damn well better be able to take it.
However, this is Not happening to men at all. Aside from males being referred to as Cis there have been no alternative language to change the definition of male. Men have not been reduced to their body parts. Men’s bathrooms and other facilities have not been renovated to gender neutral spaces only women’s facilities are being taken over.
Even if it was exactly the same for men as women. Women deciding they are male and changing their appearance to simulate being a male are no threat to men. Women remain physically smaller bodied than men and men and women who transition know it. There is no danger posed to men when women enter their facilities. It may make some men uncomfortable but there’s no danger, there’s no threat.
But there’s no such thing as patriarchy. right? Noooope, no such thing, ah huh
I have seen this on Social Media asking the question “If not using the preferred pronoun is literal violence against Trans?” Then what is changing a whole vocabulary for women? I say it is Femicide.
Before a violent atrocity such as a genocide takes place in society there is first a dehumanization process the society goes through where they reduce a particular population demographic group to things. There is already a femicide happening in our world today and historically there have been femicides on women. The inquisition for hundreds of years in Europe at times wiping out 80% or more of the female population. There are 100 million girls and women missing in the world today due to selective abortion and discarding of female infants. India and China being the most notable.
There has never been an alternative to this where men in particular had a genocide committed against them. There have been wars yes, but never a particular genocide against men and never a woman led atrocity of hoards of women committing the genocide against men.
All women’s groups, organizations, institutions are adhering to this language change and accepting males as females as if they were actual women, even if they were, as of just 15 years ago, specifically dedicated as female only institutions. None of the women only institutions designed to support women have come out to stand for women with very few exceptions. They have ALL been captured and have betrayed the idea of what a woman actually is. They have betrayed the idea of biological sex in favor of men claiming to be us.
WTF are we doing to girls and women? How many girls and women will be sacrificed to this madness that you can change your sex and males should be welcomed into all womanhood?
FFS, listen to Radical Feminists on this matter they are the experts as to the social implications of this subject for everyone but especially girls and women. Radical Feminists have been and continue to document the experiences of women in society and the dangers that men pose to women for 60+ years. Domestic Violence, rates of stalking, assault, rape, murder, sex trafficking of girls and women to meet the demand posed by men who think a female’s body is something they can purchase and so on.
The Transsexual/Transgender male is no different than all men when it comes to their entitlement to push women around and stake a claim to whatever they want. You don’t have to agree with every aspect of Radical Feminism to trust them. To understand, agree or not, they have women’s best interest at heart especially in this case.
There can not be any compromise on this. There is no such thing as transsexualism/transgenderism. No one can change their sex. Human sex is DNA coded into every cell of our bodies. Taking cross/wrong sex hormones can change a lot for a person’s body but it can’t change genetic coding and biological facts.
People who are under the delusion that they are Transsexual/Transgender need psychological help. Many people who suffer from mental illness never completely recover from their illness. However, they can learn through therapy to manage their symptoms as the rest of the population suffering from a mental illness have to do. Just because Trans Identified people haven’t had a complete recovery from their Body Integrity Dissociative Disorders from participating in psychological therapy in the past is NOT an indication that transsexualism/transgenderism must be a real biological function for some as a part of the human condition.
As I hope that I have made clear you can not give men an inch when it comes to women’s rightful place in society and the spaces we’ve developed to ensure we are standing on a strong foundation of our own. You give men an inch and they will take it all.
The medical and surgical procedure’s to transition are a crime against humanity and should be dealt with as such. Mutilating ones body through body mutilation surgeries and taking cross/wrong sex hormones to conform to gendered sexist stereotypes because as a female or as a male you don’t feel like you fit into the femininity imposed on females or the masculinity imposed on males is wrong. Transitioning ones body to conform to societies sexist gender stereotypes is Wrong. This is Not an agree to disagree issue. Some things are Wrong and this is one of them. We must change these social/cultural sexist stereotype. We must change societies perceptions of what being a woman is and what being a man is and learn to love the bodies we have and be who we are. Gender conformity is sick. Gender conformity has reached a cult like and surgical level of body mutilation and a lifetime intake of dangerous chemical pharmaceuticals destroying ones body and mind. The entire affirmation gender transitioning industry must be shut down and banned.
For women fighting to reestablish our rightful place in society we must understand there’s no such thing as transsexualism/transgenderism. We must fight from a place of NO Compromise on this stance or we will forever be fighting against Trans Identified Men establishing their rights to supersede Women’s Rights.
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